Trip to Tanzania engaged outstanding grad to learn more about public policy, health care

Teaching locals about preventing HIV/AIDS built his confidence as a speaker, helped him decide to study to become a physician


April 29, 2022

Editor's note: This story is part of a series of profiles of notable spring 2022 graduates.

Much of Nikhil Dholaria’s youth involved stories his parents and grandparents told of the world they lived in as farmers. The tales shaped his desire to serve others. Nikhil Dholaria, School of Public Affairs, spring 2022, Watts College, Outstanding Graduate. Nikhil Dholaria, School of Public Affairs, spring 2022 Watts College Outstanding Graduate, while in Tanzania his freshman year. Photo courtesy Nikhil Dholaria Download Full Image

“Coming from a culture of farmers who dedicated their lives to feeding others, I found myself playing off that lifestyle by caring for other people,” said Dholaria, the spring 2022 Outstanding Graduate from the School of Public Affairs, who also studied at Barrett, The Honors College.

It didn’t take long for the Arizona native from the West Valley city of Glendale to seek to make good on that desire to serve.

As a college freshman, he enrolled in what his professors called the “most rigorous study-abroad program the university has to offer,” which after six months of training in public speaking and cultural sensitivity, sent him to the African nation of Tanzania to teach the people who lived there about how to prevent HIV/AIDS.

“At first, I never believed that I could do it and I even considered dropping the program. I was afraid to speak and lacked the confidence to talk about sexual health to a group of strangers,” said Dholaria, who earned a Bachelor of Science degree in public affairs and public policy (health policy) and a Bachelor of Arts degree in biochemistry.

“The first few weeks in class were unsettling. Each time I was called on to speak or practice our teaching templates out loud, I heard my own frustration. My voice stuttered and I ended up repeating myself. My breathing escalated and I felt droplets of sweat journeying down the back of my neck. I felt anxious and uncertain,” he said. “It seemed that defeat was inevitable. Yet, my desire to teach a community about HIV/AIDS and immerse myself with a new culture renewed my passion. I decided to continue.

“While working in Tanzania, I recognized that it required vulnerability to care for others and I found that the same applied to medicine. Caring for others entails the acceptance of one’s own uncertainty while still providing a sense of hope.”

Read on to learn more about Dholaria’s ASU journey:

Question: Tell us more about how that Tanzania trip helped you realize you wanted to study public policy, health care and biochemistry.

Answer: Seeing the struggle that many Tanzanians — and people around the world — have in terms of access to health, I wanted to learn more about this social dilemma and find novel ways to solve it. My end goal was to work in medicine and while I already had enrolled in a biochemistry major to obtain my prerequisites, I wanted to expand on my knowledge of medicine.

While working in Tanzania, I recognized that it required vulnerability to care for others and I found that the same applied to medicine. Caring for others entails acceptance of one’s own uncertainty while still providing a sense of hope.

I started taking non-premedical courses and even found a love for service through policy. Public policy can tackle the inequities in healthcare, and I know for a fact that learning more about this will not only aid my academic endeavors in medical school, but also as a practicing physician.

Q: What’s something you learned while at ASU — in the classroom or otherwise — that surprised you, that changed your perspective?

A: Surprisingly, I feel that I learned the most about myself and my vocational goals in medicine when I decided to step away from my strictly premedical experience at the university and explore the world of the creative arts.

With ASU’s novel COVID-19 saliva test, I decided to help reiterate this story of crisis response through a documentary film. Although I had no prior background in the process of film creation, I had an interest in storytelling through film and journalism.

By interviewing faculty and students, I understood the value of the interdisciplinary field in medicine, or in any field for that matter. Although the COVID-19 pandemic required frontline health care workers, a response to this crisis required more than just healthcare workers; it required everyone. ASU’s response to the pandemic required the collaboration of faculty from different parts of the university. I decided to make this a central theme in the film.

I recognized that collaboration is essential in the practice of responding to a crisis. It took a team of people to fight the coronavirus, and I realized that the same applied to medicine. It takes a team of diverse individuals to care for others, not just one.

By venturing into film and journalism, I realized the value of collaborating with people from different backgrounds. Though accustomed to working independently, I learned that patient care is more than a doctor treating an illness. Patient care involves families, friends, co-workers and everyone in between.

Q: Why did you choose ASU?

A: Being a native Arizonan, I found a love for the Arizona community. Whether it was through volunteering or working with students in my private tutoring gig, I wanted to continue serving the community that raised me into the man I am today. And I knew that continuing my education in-state would allow me to better appreciate the members of the Arizona community and find alternative ways to continue supporting them and serving them.

Q: Which professor(s) taught you the most important lesson(s) while at ASU?

Nikhil Dholaria, School of Public Affairs, spring 2022, Watts College, Outstanding Graduate

Nikhil Dholaria. Photo courtesy Nikhil Dholaria

A: Two professors immediately come to mind. The first is Damien Salamone, a professor who transformed me from an introverted, shy boy into a public speaker who is not afraid to stand up for others and speak the truth. Dr. Salamone prepared me for my study abroad program in Tanzania. Along the six months of training, I saw myself transform. Once a cutthroat premed student, I evolved into a more compassionate and understanding person. The most important lesson that he taught me was to listen to people, something that we all take for granted.

The second professor who has had a profound role in structuring the person I am today is Rosemarie Dombrowski. Dr. Dombrowski solidified my love and appreciation for the interdisciplinary, especially in the humanities. As a pre-med student, I was so involved in strictly “pre-medical” activities, whether that be interning with a doctor or researching in a laboratory. Dr. Dombrowski, who teaches HON 394, Poetry in Medicine, helped me understand that there is much more in which I could involve myself. While I had been trying to involve myself into other disciplines, like film and storytelling, Dr. Dombrowski was the one who helped me understand that I can learn more about myself and others when exploring other fields.

I believe that a doctor is not just responsible for treating a patient, but also hearing their story and listening to them. Being a physician is not just treating and studying what the human is, but also who the human is. Listening to their stories, understanding their position, and treating them like family is what I believe in. Learning from Dr. Salamone and Dr. Dombrowski helped me start my journey to become not just a better physician down the line, but also just a better person.

Q: What’s the best piece of advice you’d give to those still in school?

A: Get involved in activities and extracurriculars not necessarily related to your major or career track. By taking a step away from what you are comfortable with, you can learn more about yourself and others. Collaboration is found in almost any field of work; by understanding other disciplines and people, we can begin to expand our own knowledge while working together to expand others’ knowledge.

Q: If you are an on-campus student, what was your favorite spot to study, meet friends or to just think about life?

A: I like to move around campus, but if I were to pick a spot that has meaning to me, it would be Armstrong Hall on the Tempe campus. This place is nostalgic for me, because I would spend long nights studying there with my peers, or just having conversations with them. It was the place where I could work when I needed to and it was the place where I could stay in contact with many of my friends, who I now call family.

Q: What are your plans after graduation?

A: After graduation, I hope to attend medical school. If I do not get accepted into medical school right after graduation, I plan to continue studying for a master’s degree in a humanities discipline. Medicine is my vocational goal and no matter how long it takes, I will keep trying until I get that acceptance into a medical school. But if my post-graduation plans do not work out, I will also continue developing my nonprofits — one supports a Tanzanian organization overseeing youth athletics, the other offers one-on-one mentoring to underprivileged college students — and continue serving others.

Q: If someone gave you $40 million to solve one problem on our planet, what would you tackle?

A: When I started my own nonprofit organization, I quickly learned that while giving money to others may help, it only does so temporarily. The recipients became dependent on the charitable donations, which defeated the purpose of giving. If I had $40 million to give, I would donate to humanitarian organizations which advocate for free-thinkers. Many places in the world suppress ideas and beliefs that people may have. I believe that everyone can have an idea and that everyone should have the opportunity to be heard. By empowering those in need to act for themselves, they may be able to find more sustainable methods of charity that can help them progress beyond monetary donations.

Mark J. Scarp

Media Relations Officer, Watts College of Public Service and Community Solutions

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Tragedy did not deter outstanding grad from completing her degree

'I knew he would say to continue,' said student about her husband; she returned to earn master's degree 22 years after receiving bachelor’s


April 29, 2022

Editor's note: This story is part of a series of profiles of notable spring 2022 graduates.

Just as Sandra Perez started her studies toward a master’s degree in program evaluation and data analytics, her husband, Moises, became ill. He passed away of non-COVID-related causes a short time later, in November 2020. Sandra Perez, Interdisciplinary Programs, spring 2022m Watts College, Outstanding Graduate. Photo courtesy Sandra Perez Sandra Perez, Interdisciplinary Programs, spring 2022 Watts College Outstanding Graduate, with her late husband, Moises. Photo courtesy Sandra Perez Download Full Image

“He was a winner. Everything on his mind he was able to do. He supported my going back to school 200%,” said Perez, the spring 2022 Outstanding Graduate in Interdisciplinary Programs at the Watts College of Public Service and Community Solutions, who enrolled 22 years after earning her bachelor’s degree in computer science.

“He had wanted to eventually go back as well. He said, ‘You do it first.’”

But her husband’s death made it difficult for Perez to concentrate on her studies. He died when she was a few assignments into her second class.

“I didn’t want to go back to school. But I began thinking about him and what he would do, and I knew he would say to continue,” she said.

It wasn’t easy. English became Perez’s second language at age 25. But she pressed on.

“To be sincere, the program was a lifesaver for me. The structure gave me short-term goals. Healing is one day at a time, sometimes a moment at a time. I took baby steps,” she said. “I didn’t want to wait any longer.”

Perez said many immigrants who hesitate about returning to school haven’t done it because they do not feel confident enough about the language.

“I would say to them, life is not perfect. There is no such thing as a perfect situation. It is a more mental barrier than a real one,” said Perez, who added she should have returned to school 20 years ago, but didn’t.

“I would like to share my experience to help people decide to go to school, because you’ll never have a perfect situation,” she said. “After all the tears, the suffering, the life-changing events, time flew by, and I finally achieved the dream I had longed for for many years. I look back, and I think my dear husband would be proud of what I have done.”

Read more to learn about Perez’s ASU journey:

Question: What was your "aha" moment, when you realized you wanted to study the field you majored in?

Answer: I have been working with nonprofit organizations all my life. I have seen good programs disappear or be reduced because their grants were over. Some of these programs could have had their funding renewed, but they did not collect enough information to prove the program was working. That was my "aha" moment. I thought: "Is there a way to help these organizations to collect and use data and get more funding?"

Q: What's something you learned while at ASU — in the classroom or otherwise — that surprised you that changed your perspective?

A: I learned at ASU that it is never too late to go back to school, or to start school. I have a gap of 22 years since I received my bachelor’s degree, and for many years I thought it would be impossible for me to go back to school.

I always thought that education is a valuable jewel that no one can take away from you. ASU helped me to remember that. When you acquire the knowledge, you are investing in yourself. It is not easy, but it is worth it. ASU gave me confidence, and I know that I can do anything I set my mind to with effort and dedication.

Q: Why did you choose ASU?

A: ASU is an amazing institution. In my mind, there was no other school. ASU has been ranked No. 1 in innovation for many years. ASU offers hundreds of degrees in person and online. For full-time workers, online is a great option.

I think program evaluation and data analytics is a unique program. I always thought about it as a hybrid program. I learned tools to measure the effectiveness of a program using data and statistical formulas. With my STEM education background and my nonprofit employment experience, this program was what I was looking for.

Q: Which professor(s) taught you the most important lesson while at ASU?

Sandra Perez, Interdisciplinary Programs, spring 2022, Watts College, Outstanding Graduate. Photo courtesy Sandra Perez

Sandra Perez. Photo courtesy Sandra Perez

A: Sometimes you feel a little isolated while being an online student. However, all my teachers were excellent, professional and always willing to help out. Professors Jamison Crawford, Malcolm GogginAnthony HowellRobert KramerDavid Schlinkert, David Selby and Courtney Stowers — I want to thank each one of them, as they all helped me to learn new skills. An important lesson was that online education is as good as education in person. If you have questions, just ask. ASU professors will help answer questions and clarify doubts.

A special thank you to Jesse Lecy. He is the director of my degree program. Dr. Lecy was always there to help us. He oversees the core classes and assists us when we have questions. Thank you so much for all your help!

Q: What's the best piece of advice you'd give to those still in school?

A: Just set your mind to think about short-term goals — one assignment at a time. A week at a time. If you see all the courses you need to complete, it will be very overwhelming. Do not use your energy thinking about all the years you will be spending at school.

Q: As an online student, what was your favorite spot for power studying?

A: Being an online student and working from home because of the pandemic makes you sit for a long time. There is a spot at home next to a window where I sat when I read. It helped me focus. I also played instrumental music when there was noise around.

Q: What are your plans after graduation?

A: I would like to keep working with nonprofit organizations to write grants. With the tools I learned at ASU, I can help at different levels.

Q: If someone gave you $40 million to solve one problem on our planet, what would you tackle?

A: This is a very difficult question. I have worked with at-risk adolescents and teenagers with challenging behaviors. That money would create programs for this population to help them learn new skills, create memorable experiences and help them to feel confident and safe. Strong teenagers create stronger communities. This could create a social change. After all, children are our future.    

Mark J. Scarp

Media Relations Officer, Watts College of Public Service and Community Solutions

602-496-0001