Religious studies graduate earns doctorate for research on Indonesian singer


April 19, 2021

Editor's note: This story is part of a series of profiles of notable spring 2021 graduates.

James ‘Jamie’ Edmonds grew up on a dirt road in York County, South Carolina and spent a considerable amount of time wandering the woods. As he considered his next step in life, going to college or working in an automotive shop, the Sept. 11 attacks happened. James Edmonds James Edmonds is earning his PhD in religious studies. Download Full Image

“This sent my small town into a bit of a frenzy,” Edmonds said. “I became very aware of the hatred and violence that was a part of where I lived. So many friends and their parents appeared to hate this massive group of people who I knew nothing about.”

He had an interest in religion and was very confused and concerned about the way people were viewing the Islamic religion. So when he went to college, he decided to study religion. Now, he is graduating with his PhD in religious studies from the School of Historical, Philosophical and Religious Studies.

His dissertation evaluates the popularity of an Indonesian singer and the performances he gives.

“For the last seven years, I have been following the popular Islamic performances by Habib Syech bin Abdul Qadir Assegaf around Indonesia and other parts of Asia,” Edmonds said. “He brings tens of thousands of people together to listen and participate in these devotional Islamic signs, and I have traveled extensively with him, his musicians and the crew to better understand what makes these events so popular.”

In addition to earning his doctorate, Edmonds received over 20 awards and scholarships while attending Arizona State University including numerous Foreign Language and Area Studies fellowships and a Fulbright scholarship. 

Question: What was your “aha” moment, when you realized you wanted to study the field you majored in? (Might be while you were at ASU or earlier.)

Answer: My aha moment for continuing to study religion passed my bachelor’s was a trip to India with my professors from the College of Charleston. I spent about six weeks traveling with my professors across India. This opened my eyes to an incredibly rich and complex world that I wanted to understand. I will never forget standing at the base of a Buddhist monastery or seeing a sound and the Hare Krishna sound and light show we attended. 

Q: What’s something you learned while at ASU — in the classroom or otherwise — that surprised you or changed your perspective?

A: Everyone from students to the most advanced professor is faking it until they make it. There is no perfect measure of progress, and the more you try to force an arbitrary set of measures on individual situations, the more stress you create. This drive for perfection and progress often hinders learning.

Q: Why did you choose ASU?

A: I wanted to work with certain professors at ASU who did things that I was also interested in. 

Q: Which professor taught you the most important lesson while at ASU?

A: No singular professor taught me the most important lesson. I had the opportunity to learn so much from so many professors both inside and outside of the classroom that it would be hard to choose. 

Q: What’s the best piece of advice you’d give to those still in school?

A: Stop restricting yourself to things, people, experiences that you think you deserve or are interested in. Explore the vastness of knowledge with humility and curiosity. 

Q: What was your favorite spot on campus, whether for studying, meeting friends or just thinking about life?

A: I am going to be honest. I spent a lot of time in an office with no windows. So, anytime I got to see the sun and walk around campus was awesome.

Q: What are your plans after graduation?

A: I am currently working several jobs including cybersecurity and database management. I hope to purchase a house in the Phoenix area, support my wife's passions, have some children, start a garden and build furniture out of wood. 

Q: If someone gave you $40 million to solve one problem on our planet, what would you tackle?

A: Education inequality. 

Rachel Bunning

Communications program coordinator, School of Historical, Philosophical and Religious Studies

From ‘unschooled’ to undergraduate: How first-gen ASU student persevered to earn communication degree


April 19, 2021

Editor's note: This story is part of a series of profiles of notable spring 2021 graduates.

For many first-generation students, navigating the world of academia can be challenging and filled with unknowns. For Molly Joy Lode, the task was made even more complicated by the fact she was raised in an “unschooling” environment, meaning she had no formal education growing up. Molly Joy Lode stands in her cap and gown on ASU Tempe campus Molly Joy Lode will graduate this spring with her bachelor's degree in communication from The College of Liberal Arts and Sciences. Download Full Image

Before transferring to Arizona State University, Lode completed her GED – relying on YouTube to learn math – and attended a community college.

“I'm not gonna lie, it was very difficult. Growing up, I never learned any math beyond my basic times tables, so learning the math portion of the GED was definitely challenging,” said Lode.

Lode, who will graduate this spring with her bachelor’s degree in communication from The College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, said she always loved the idea of learning and academia as a child but lacked the context to pursue it. Then at 18, she married someone from her church.

“I figured I would never go to college, and I thought I would have to rely on a spouse to make ends meet. But then after a few months of that, it just wasn't working out. Something just kind of clicked in me. And I was like, ‘Oh, OK, I need to make a change here. I want to be independent. I want to be educated,’” she said. "I left that relationship because he did not want me to have an education. He told me that he would divorce me if I got smarter than him, so I just divorced him and went to school instead."

From there Lode said she decided to throw herself right into the fire — she left her hometown of Helena, Montana, sought out a large institution, and quickly worked to learn the social dynamics of how to be successful in a classroom, how to make friends and how to live a life with structure and deadlines.

“I was able to adapt, I don't know how, but I was able to figure it out,” she said. “It was definitely very difficult though.”

Despite the difficulty, Lode has a message of encouragement for others with similar backgrounds: You can do it.

“If there's anybody out there who has a similar background to me, maybe they didn't have much education growing up or their parents were unschoolers like mine were or maybe they are disadvantaged and didn't have access to a good school system or something like that … if there are people out there with those kinds of backgrounds, wondering if they can make it through college, I want them to know that it is possible. If I can do it, they can do it.”

Lode shared more about her experiences at ASU.

Question: Why did you choose ASU?

Answer: I wanted warm weather, of course, so that was a huge draw. I was also kind of attracted to the idea of being at a very big public university. I thought I would throw myself right in and see what it was like to be in a city and around a lot of people.

Q: Did you have an “aha” moment when you realized you wanted to study communication or what drew you to the degree program?

A: While studying engineering, I was working with a team and loved writing the reports. I really loved communicating between people and deciphering the engineer-speak and putting it into presentations and boiling down information into easy-to-read things. And that's when I realized that while I loved engineering, what I excelled most in was communication and I realized I could be successful as a technical communicator.

Q: What’s something you learned while at The College — in the classroom or otherwise — that surprised you or changed your perspective?

A: My first semester here was very overwhelming, I was coming from a small town and of course I was fairly lonely growing up, so I never had been around the number of people that ASU has. The first semester, I pretty much couldn't handle it. I was hiding in my apartment and was dealing with a lot of anxiety about it, but slowly I started to come out of my shell and was able to walk to class without feeling overwhelmed. Being here has helped me to feel more comfortable in the world in general, because there's just such a high volume of people here and so many different, diverse people, so it gave me a good cross section of humanity in general where I could just learn how to be comfortable in pretty much any environment. Now as I'm graduating, I feel like I'm equipped to go work anywhere in the world because I've been exposed to so many different cultures and so many different ideas and ways of being.

Q: How did you overcome the obstacles you experienced along your journey?

A: The No. 1 biggest obstacle I encountered was my own mental health. I was struggling with a lot of anxiety when I first moved here and that remained fairly consistent even up until now. I still struggle with anxiety quite a lot. The mental health services here at ASU have really been just amazing. The counseling services I have used throughout my time here connected to all sorts of really good resources. Student Accessibility and Inclusive Learning Services really helped me out a lot too with getting the accommodations I needed to succeed.

Q: Did you receive any scholarships or financial support while at ASU? If yes, how did those impact your experience?

A: I got a Pell grant but my biggest contributor has been vocational rehab through the state of Arizona. I was able to get assistance because they were aware of my unconventional background and wanted to help me become a productive member of society, so they funded most of my education. It meant the world to me because trying to acclimate to being in a university after having virtually no experience in that environment and dealing with mental health issues while worrying about living expenses and things like that was the last thing that I wanted on my plate. Having that aid to get through school comfortably was incredibly important. I don't think I would have made it this far without that assistance.

Q: Were there any clubs or organizations that positively impacted your ASU experience?

A: The ASU Outdoors Club connected me with all sorts of amazing hiking experiences. I got to go spelunking for the first time, and the club was a very enriching aspect of ASU for me.

Q: Which professor taught you the most important lesson while at ASU?

A: Professor Steven Corman taught me to be forgiving of myself. He didn't specifically coach me on this, but rather the grace that he consistently extended to me when I was struggling with my work had a huge impact on the way I treated myself. He really showed me the value of cutting myself some slack when necessary. Also Professor Jeffrey Kassing, he was the first professor to suggest graduate school to me. It meant a lot to know that someone saw that potential in me and it completely changed my perception of what my future may hold for me.

Q: What are your plans after graduation?

A: I would like to attend graduate school this August and earn my Master of Science in technical communication. It is my dream to work as a project manager and communicator in the science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM) industries. My goal is to create methods of communication and education that are inclusive of all educational backgrounds and skill levels so that anyone interested in STEM can have a fair chance to participate meaningfully. I believe that facilitating cohesion and collaboration between people of all abilities and backgrounds is the key to true innovation in STEM. If I can one day give a voice or an opportunity to someone who may otherwise be overlooked (perhaps because of a background similar to my own), it will be all worth it.

Kirsten Kraklio

Content Strategist and Writer, The College of Liberal Arts and Sciences

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